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Books On Tropes: Personality, Plots. and Cliches

Posted on Sep 19th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Child Marmalade

Here is a nice page from the
TV Tropes Wiki.  I own several of the books mentioned here.  I'm particularly interested in theories about plot structure.



Books On Trope

In case you didn't realize it: We here at TV Tropes are not the first to collect tropes and try to put them in some semblance of order. Of course, since few people would actually use the word trope to describe patterns in media, it may be difficult to find the various resources that exist. Therefore we now have this page. If you happen to run across a resource (a book, website, or other useful thing) that discusses a set of tropes, write up a summary page and stick the link on this index.

Personality Profiles

The most common trope collections are personality profiles. Many people have devised systems of sorting characters into a handful of pigeonholes (the Meyers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), the Enneagram, etc.). Of course, they tend to think this works well for sorting people, whereas we're going to take the more sensible view that it works well for sorting fictional characters who aren't nearly as complex as your average real human. They're useful systems for the writer as well as for the reader, so eventually we'll get them up here.

Basic Plots

People have also tried to condense the wide and varied world of plots into a small and succinct list of possible plots. The most basic system says that all plots are about one of two things, love and death, but the list can go up to fifty or even more. Joseph Campbell tried to pin it all down to a single heroic version in The Hero's Journey, and while that doesn't cover every story, it works with a lot of them (and George Lucas decided to base Star Wars all around Campbell's work). It's when people start claiming that Schlindler's List has the same plot as Alice In Wonderland that we start to wonder if their systems make any sense, but hey, maybe they had a flash of inspiration. At any rate, studying plot archetypes can help writers to straighten out the odd kinks that are throwing them for a loop, and maybe to introduce elements that strengthen the overall story and underscore its thematic meaning. As for the reader... well, it's always fun to realize, halfway into the new blockbuster, that you're really watching a postmodern sci-fi version of Beauty And The Beast.

Lists of Clichés

Dead Horse Tropes can be surprisingly stubborn beasts, refusing to leave the media well after they've been discredited, disbarred, and run out of the country for being So Last Century. The more that writers recognize the possible clichés that exist, the more they're able to avert, subvert, and even invert the critters, allowing for the possibility that their viewers are not morons and just might enjoy watching something written with a little connection to reality. Then again, it's just fun to review all the oddities that make up our collected media history (laser printers that still sound like a Dot Matrix?) and then play drinking games over recognizing when they show up in our favorite sitcoms.



Personality Profiles

Basic Plots

Lists of Clichés

Resources That Don't Yet Have Their Own Pages

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Nicole : wakingdreamer
about 9 hours later
Nicole said

so much interesting stuff in here i could get lost in the rabbit holes all morning.

I especially appreciated Poe's law, will put it in the God Pod

ok I linked it here to your blog http://pods.gaia.com/is_there_a_god/discussions/view/253474#341506

1Vector3 : "Relentless Wisdom"
about 10 hours later
1Vector3 said

Ah, now I get a better idea of what a trope is. The word itself, whence cometh it??

As I am an information-organizing-addict, this kind of summarizing/synthesizing thrills me to my core !!!!!!!

Besides which, it really is useful. That's the bottom line for me, I don't enjoy organizing just for the sheer joy of manipulating information into patterns.


She said.

:) OM Bastet

Marmalade : Gaia Child
about 18 hours later
Marmalade said

Nicole… found something interesting, did ya?  I really want to spend the time to thoroughly look through that site eventually.

OM - The people at that site apparently made up their own use of the word 'trope'.  They just expanded off of the dictionary definition of a trope being a convention.

Yes, organizing info, ain't it fun?  Its a well organized site.  Quite impressive!  I guess its useful… depending on your purpose in life.

Nicole : wakingdreamer
1 day later
Nicole said

oh I found so many interesting things! I linked Poe's law to the God Pod just because that had come up several times in relation to Balder's mock-fundamentalist thread, that people took it seriously, and it was great to see why it kept happening, and see the historical context, e.g. Modest Proposal and other satire taken seriously.

But I also really enjoyed reading about all the hero archetypes and the heroine ones. I watched What Dreams May Come last night - have you ever seen that or blogged about it? Lots of interesting things there about how we imagine heaven, being about meeting up with loved ones who have died, and God not really being around there either, and suicides still going to hell… and yet of course love still conquers all, and soulmates can find each other again and again :)

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